Hello acquired listeners. We have a very special treat for you today. We have an episode here with Brett Taylor and Clay
Bavor. David, this is an awesome conversation. Oh, we've gotten to know Brett and Clay
a bit over the years and especially in doing research for our Google episode. They were both incredibly helpful
because they both started their storied careers as APMs, associate product
managers at Google back in the early days. helped with part one, they're helping with part two, they're now
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