$30B Founder: SEO is Dead.. Do This Instead

All right, so we had Daresh Shaw on the podcast today. Daresh is interesting. One, he's probably the most listened to

and viewed guest that we've ever had. And two, the reason he is that way is because Darmsh runs HubSpot, which is a

25 or $30 billion company that makes billions billions in revenue. And he's a billionaire. He also is sort of like a

hacker. So he launches little projects all of the time. Sometimes they work, sometimes they fail, sometimes they make $5,000 a month. And so he's probably the

only person on earth that has this perspective of both being a big thinker and launching new projects.