Anti-Business Billionaires: Lessons from Steve Jobs, James Dyson, and Yvon Chouinard

They're like, "Would you be interested in selling your company?" The response was, "Fuck you. This is a family

heirloom." [Music]

Okay. So, what we're talking about today is Yeah. basically I don't listen to any business podcast other than Founders.

It's the only business podcast I listen to. I listen to Founders and I listen to MMA and true crime. That's pretty much

it. Uh, and so like I I I view you as my friend, but I also am a fan of yours.