PAIN, POWER, PURPOSE: The Emotional Struggles of Alexander Hamilton and Mark Twain (Ron Chernow)

I think that capacity for growth is true of all the people that I have written about. They all become someone so much

greater than could possibly have imagined. My books would not exist would not be possible without today's guest.

Ron Chernau is a prizewinning author, won the National Book Award. He's won the Pulitzer Prize for biography. And

then Hamilton is of course the inspiration for the musical. Hamilton and Twain were gifts for the biographer

because they were not in control of themselves. Yes, there's more drama if