This is not a normal episode. There's two guests, not one. Tim Mackey and John
Collins, and they're the founders of the Bible Project, a YouTube channel with more than half a billion views, and it
is entirely devoted to teaching people how to read just one book. I think that book happens to be the most influential
book in the history of Western civilization. The beginning of this interview is about how they make these
videos. They're so good, how they're researched, how they're written, how they're animated. Then we got to the deeper stuff and I think you're going to
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